it has been a long looong time since i posted on here, but never ceased reading all the posts and keeping up on the changes that have been going on!
but it just seems that now i have a need to get something off my chest, and this is the one place that will most definitely understand the topic at hand.
i have been disfellowshipped for about 8yrs now, and have dealt with the 'consequences' of that decision: all my so-called friends in the org left and i was also abandoned by my own family.
...my one uncle was offended that my dad has the nerve to have me bring the food that he forgot, yet couldn't bring himself to even say 'thank you'.
Somewhere someone once cited a bit of text suggesting a time when natural affection would cease. (I wonder where that could be???) As I recall this bit of text was/is oft used by JWs in relation to "the world". Yet we see this utter lack of natural affection among JWs in the most simple of acts, like the one above.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
And you do not get to decide.
Decide what? I certainly get to decide what my ethical position is. I certainly get to decide what my moral position is. I certainly get to decide if, when and how I respond to whatever I chose to respond to. Don't you?
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Morpheus we are just having a discussion here, that is all. Relax
My impression is that _Morpheus has been relaxed throughout this entire circus of a discussion.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Disclosing private communication is wrong conduct.
That's a generalization that is not always true. Sometimes disclosing private communication is unethical and/or illegal and sometimes it's not. In fact, sometimes the only right conduct is to disclose private communications!
Do things responsibly and ethically, ask the sender first.
It is a responsible act to ask a sender before sharing their communications, but it is not necessarily an irresponsible act to share a sender's communication without asking them. Sometimes the right thing is not to inform a sender you are going to share their communications.
What is your point of view Marvin?
That you've made much ado about nothing in this discussion. The original poster has done nothing unethical, immoral or illegal in this instance insofar as I can see or has been shown. My point of view is as I've said earlier, that you're showing the south end of a north bound horse. That's what I'm seeing because that's what you've shown. Just above you go on by quoting legalese. If you think anyone here has broken a law my recommendation is that you call local law enforcement and report the crime. My view is that you're making a mole hill out of flatland by forcing details into a very narrow and self-serving clump you apparently think of as "fact".
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
I'd rather listen to fishermen.
Tis much more entertaining, I wholly agree!
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
GIS for playing with yourself...
Red herring. Read about it.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Of course I didn't.
You did assert both.
It's right there is nice tidy words captured on pages 10 and 12 of this discussion.
On page 10 in response to wannaexit opining "Now we should all move on" you responded with:
No one is forcing you to stay. It's also not your purview to tell everyone else what to do.
Yet on page 12 you told me it's obvious that wannaexit has the purview to share her/his recommendation that the group should move on.
Your objection to what wannaexit said is baseless.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Congratulations on stating the obvious....
If it's obvious that within guidelines of this forum wannaexit does have purview to share opinions, including a recommendation that the group should move on for whatever, then your objection to what wannaexit said is baseless. That is to say, contrary to your earlier directly relevant assertion to wannaexit statement at issue that "It's also not your purview to tell everyone else what to do" it turns out that, according to you, it's obvious that wannaexit does in fact have the purview you said she/he did not have.
So which is obvious? That wannaexit has or does not have purview to share an opinion as a recommendation that the group should move on? You've asserted both!
today i read a comment on my blog about an image found in a 1958 watchtower publication titled from paradise lost to paradise regained.
it reminded me of what went through my mind back in those years.
watchtower meeting agendas were notoriously boring with the result of children (including teenagers) spending their time looking at pictures in great detail.
OMG! I grew up with that book and remember those illustrations. They worried and frightened me because I knew, just knew...........I was never going to make it!!
I can't tell you how many middle-age JWs have told me that, as children, they lost sleep at night worried sick they were not good enough to make it through Armageddon. Nearly every one of these recounted the very image discussed here. As recounted to me, the fear was heightened to nearly unbearable levels on nights of bad weather with lots of thunder and lightening.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Wrong. And even if you were right, the net of this is you complaining over nothing and pretending to know things you don't.
Within guidelines of this forum wannaexit (and you and me, and everyone else here!) does have purview to share opinions, including a recommendation that the group should move on for whatever.
